how do you think a socially savvy man would have handled conveying these messages? break down the process..curious of your thoughts here

Personally I refuse to believe women are serious about feminism until a few things happen:
1 Women ask men on dates. It shouldn’t always be the mans job. You come across as thinking all the woman should do is smile and flirt and be dissapointed if the man dosn’t make a move. If you want equality do some of the hard part yourselves. Dating must be so easy for women, if anything goes wrong – blame the man. He didn’t ask you out or he chose the wrong restraunt. Do nothing then blame the man for not doing everything right.
2 Women happily go out with guys who are shorter than themselves. I don’t know why you girls can’t do it but please get over it. Us shorter guys need lovin’ too.

You assume that men are direct because they are socially savvy.

Men who are socially savvy are neither direct or indirect. They just say what they feel, they just say it how it is. They mean what they say and they say what they mean.

In Vanae’s video, I wouldn’t say the man is socially savvy. He’s so unaware socially unsavvy that he doens’t pick up on the subtleties of her communication.

If he was socially savvy, he wouldn’t have the talks depicted in the video in the first place. He’d just lead her thru the emotions he wants her to feel… and allow her to react/respond accordingly.

He wouldn’t have THAT kind of talk.

I can totally understand why you would want a woman and people, in general, to be honest with you. If they lie, it can be a pain in the rear and can create all that drama. That’s an awfully selfish, too, though don’t you think?

But whether a woman tells the truth, a socially savvy lie, or a plain old lie, shouldn’t a man be able to handle that? Does he really need to go off and fret because the woman is being herself? I think a woman following her feelings and staying true to her way of thinking is an enjoyable form of honesty.

You make it seem like a woman’s urge to only hint at her feelings is a huge problem like the ebola virus – it must be stopped! lol

To me, at least, it is just one woman telling me that she is not interested. One out of a couple billion in the world (I’m a romantic so that lady living on the Euphrates has just as much of a chance with me as my next door neighbor haha), and I’m supposed to be weak with her and pursue her like she is the only woman in the world? Maybe in time, but by that time, this topic wouldn’t even be an issue

I’m quite the windbag, so I will go on…

Your first argument – women need chemistry much more than guys. The foundation for chemistry is attraction. If she doesn’t want to sit on your face, she does not find you to be attractive. If she does, even if she is “using you,” deep down she finds something attractive about you because a person never does anything they don’t truly want to do. Although, what they want to do will change from day to day, which would lead to buyer’s remorse.

Secondly, being insincere and a liar is, you’re right, not being socially savvy. And neither is being honest all the time. I know a lot of honest, could walk into church naked without reprimand type of friends, and they absolutely suck at socializing

One of the best known socialites was Benjamin Franklin. And frankly (haha), he talked more like a woman than a man. He is said to have never uttered an offensive phrase because he knew that if he wanted cooperation, making people feel bad would be a bad way to get it. Now, either Benjamin Franklin was the luckiest guy in the world and he never met anyone that pissed him off, or he learned to keep certain thoughts to himself to further his interests.